Live Ventures (NASDAQ:LIVE) Use Of Debt Could Be Considered Risky

The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We can see that Live Ventures Incorporated (NASDAQ:LIVE) does use debt in its business. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?

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When Is Debt A Problem?

Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.

What Is Live Ventures's Net Debt?

As you can see below, Live Ventures had US$149.6m of debt, at December 2024, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. However, it does have US$7.41m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about US$142.2m.

How Healthy Is Live Ventures' Balance Sheet?

We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Live Ventures had liabilities of US$121.5m falling due within a year, and liabilities of US$200.8m due beyond that. Offsetting this, it had US$7.41m in cash and US$38.0m in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities total US$276.8m more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.

This deficit casts a shadow over the US$29.5m company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely. After all, Live Ventures would likely require a major re-capitalisation if it had to pay its creditors today.

See our latest analysis for Live Ventures

We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).

Weak interest cover of 0.097 times and a disturbingly high net debt to EBITDA ratio of 7.5 hit our confidence in Live Ventures like a one-two punch to the gut. The debt burden here is substantial. Even worse, Live Ventures saw its EBIT tank 89% over the last 12 months. If earnings continue to follow that trajectory, paying off that debt load will be harder than convincing us to run a marathon in the rain. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But you can't view debt in total isolation; since Live Ventures will need earnings to service that debt. So if you're keen to discover more about its earnings, it might be worth checking out this graph of its long term earnings trend.

Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Over the most recent three years, Live Ventures recorded free cash flow worth 67% of its EBIT, which is around normal, given free cash flow excludes interest and tax. This free cash flow puts the company in a good position to pay down debt, when appropriate.

Our View

On the face of it, Live Ventures's EBIT growth rate left us tentative about the stock, and its level of total liabilities was no more enticing than the one empty restaurant on the busiest night of the year. But at least it's pretty decent at converting EBIT to free cash flow; that's encouraging. After considering the datapoints discussed, we think Live Ventures has too much debt. That sort of riskiness is ok for some, but it certainly doesn't float our boat. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. These risks can be hard to spot. Every company has them, and we've spotted 3 warning signs for Live Ventures (of which 2 don't sit too well with us!) you should know about.

At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.

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